Revealing
the Soul
Dick Gregory elevates
Black women, offers information in new book
As
a social activist, Dick Gregory has impacted many lives on many
fronts�from the Civil Rights Movement to health and nutrition. A
husband and father, Mr. Gregory recently debuted his 13th book,
"Callus On My Soul," which has been purchased by
Showtime for movie production. He recently spoke with contributing
writer Charlene Muhammad about the movement, family, history, the
importance of respecting the Black woman and the value of
information.
Final Call News (FCN): What motivated you to
write this book?
Dick Gregory (DG): We put a lot of
information in it that people are able to put out on Black radio
across the country and the Black press, but mostly Black radio. It
was to say to the world that money is not power, education is not
power, but information is power. I wanted to update the (Civil
Rights) Movement, not from a white racist standpoint, but from a
Black point of view. Black folk can have a white racist mentality,
(but) we can�t be racist because the word racism means the
ability to control somebody else�s fate and destiny. But I can
have a white racist mentality. What I wanted to do was update and
say here�s what really went down. I�m hoping that the book
would sell so many copies for one reason, because then the world
would find out that information sells. Then there will be people
in the FBI, the CIA, who will find somebody to give information to
because they know there�s a market for it.
We were able to talk about health toward the
end of the book. We talked about fasting and how important it is
to take care of the body. We talked about the Million Man March. I
was privileged to see the Naval Intelligence Recognizance
Satellite pictures of the March, and they counted 1.8 million
Black men who showed up that day. We were able to say something
that the white press has never said, and that is, this is the
first time in history that there was a major march, that someone
dared do it on a Monday in October. The unions, who have
multi-billion dollar kitties, would never have a march that wasn�t
in August, where people could get vacation time, the children are
out of school. Here�s Brother Minister (Louis) Farrakhan, he
calls a march for a Monday in October, didn�t know if it was
going to be hot or cold, on a weekday, and drew 1.8 million. Now
out of that, two sisters, and I�m talking about Black women, not
blood sisters, decided to have the Million Woman March in
Philadelphia and most folks in Philadelphia didn�t even know who
they were. They drew millions of people. So these were the things
that I wanted to talk about to set the record straight. I really
wanted to get that information out ... with no hidden agendas.
FCN: What impact would you like this book to
have on Blacks?
DG: Just a history of what really happened.
Remember, now, if you were in an automobile accident here, I would
have to pick it up on the East Coast on NBC, CBS, ABC, and they�d
give it their way. We cannot be without independent information.
This is the most racist, insane, vicious nation. We do stuff in
this country that would make Hitler blush; and if we�re not
willing to come together and form a coalition�if you don�t
like the NAACP, you should join it so that when that racist cop
pulls you over and you�re reaching for your driver�s license,
and he sees that NAACP card, now he knows when he goes upside your
head, he�s hitting the group. It�s a hell of an insurance
policy. I would just hope that Black folks would read this and
learn about their health, learn how corrupt this government is,
some of the vicious things they�ve done to white folks that they
didn�t like, white folks who just wanted to be fair, white folks
who were just trying to help Black folks. I want for women to
understand, particularly Black women, how it�s an insult when I
look at you and say you�re a strong sister, a beautiful sister,
but my white racist mentality will not let me see beauty because
it�s not what they (white society) told me beauty�s supposed
to be like.
We were able to talk about the value of Jet
and Ebony magazines and Johnny Johnson and in the midst of
the Civil Rights Movement, it was them and those Black reporters
that were down (in the South) telling the truth. There were local
reporters, but even if they wanted to, they couldn�t. Remember,
the Justice Department, who was turning its back, couldn�t turn
its back because the Black press were there reporting it.
FCN: What has been the response of Black women
to the book?
DG: They�ve cried. There (are not many)
books ... where the Black woman comes out without negativity. It�s
interesting that on a hillbilly record the singer never says
anything derogatory about his woman. But the most derogatory
things that are said about Black women are said by Black men.
Imagine if we were white folks in Australia and we�d never seen
a Black woman. All we�ve ever heard is Black men singing about
them, so when you walk over there with seven doctorate degrees or
as the president of a college, I (white people) see y�all as
whores, just as what your man said you are. If I heard a Jewish
dude saying derogatory things about Jewish women, I wouldn�t
assume he�s lying on them, especially if the Jewish women weren�t
protesting it, but were at a party dancing to it.
We also talked about the power of the Black
woman�s spirit and the hurricanes. All hurricanes are not
"him," they�re "her," and they start in West
Africa, where the slaves were put on the ship. They stay on the
ground and follow the path that the slave ships followed. No slave
was ever offloaded from ships until it got to the Caribbean. No
hurricane ever jumps off water until it gets to the Caribbean. It
will hit this country and go all the way up the East Coast until
it gets to Maine. Remember, Canada literally is right across the
street from Maine. Canada has never had a hurricane because Canada
has never treated the Black woman the way America has. Again, the
response has been great. We�re all out of the first printing.
There are no more books in the warehouse.
FCN: What keeps you motivated?
DG: I keep going because I realize there
was a time when I was in the military, in darkness, and would have
killed for this (white) man. Had I been married and had a family
and he said we�ve got to take this hill back, I would have
gladly done so. I just decided one day with my wife that the fact
that I would have been willing at that time to kill or be killed
for a nation that hates me, that if I was willing to do that, then
we would never make decisions based on how will this affect our
family. I feel this way because of what I would have done for
America.
FCN: Thank you. |